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Raisethefist.com: SECRET SERVICE INTERROGATES TWO OAKLAND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
SECRET SERVICE INTERROGATES TWO OAKLAND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
by . Wed May 14 02:26:16 PDT 2003
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On April 23, 2003, Secret Service agents visited Oakland High and interrogated two 16 year-old male students in connection with comments they had allegedly made during a classroom discussion concerning President Bush and the U.S. Government's role in Iraq.... When one of the students asked if he had to talk to the agents now, could he talk to them later with a lawyer present, the student said one of the agents told him, "We own you, if you don't talk to us now, and we find out you haven't told us everything, we'll put you MF's in federal prison. This is the beginning of the end for you."
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The following was passed nearly unanimously at
the Oakland Education Association's Representative
Council on Monday, May 5, 2003 denouncing the
Interrogation of Oakland High Students by the Secret Service.
The East Bay Educators Justice Network will be
addressing and organizing around this issue at
our meeting next Tuesday, May 13, at 4PM at Oakland
Tech, Room 205 (45th and Broadway, enter through the back doors).
On April 23, 2003, Secret Service agents visited
Oakland High and interrogated two 16 year-old
male students in connection with comments they had
allegedly made during a classroom discussion
concerning President Bush and the U.S.
Government's role in Iraq.
The Secret Service was called the day before
because the teacher felt the students' statements could be interpreted as threats to the President. The
students were each subjected to intimidating
interrogation for 45 minutes to an hour each and were told they had no rights because of what they had supposedly said.
When one of the students asked if he had to talk to
the agents now, could he talk to them later with a
lawyer present, the student said one of the agents told
him, "We own you, if you don't talk to us now, and we
find out you haven't told us everything, we'll put you
MF's in federal prison. This is the beginning of the
end for you." The students were asked all kinds of
questions about their home life as well as things
like, "Are you a terrorist?" And their families--Mien
& Vietnamese--were threatened with deportation if
the students didn't cooperate. All of this was in the
presence of the principal, who made no attempt to
contact parents or advise students of their right
to remain silent or seek legal counsel.
We deplore this blatant infrigement of students'
free speech & academic freedom .
Students have a right to discuss their opinions
on any subject without the fear of reprisal or threats
of arrest from law enforcement. We will not allow
the atmosphere of repression against dissent and
immigrants to pervade our schools and community.
The city of Oakland, along with 92 other cities
in the country, has passed a resolution against the
Patriot Act. Be it resolved that in the spirit of that
resolution and in opposition to the atmosphere of
repression against dissent, we call for any file
related to this event to be stricken from
students' records. We further call on the OEA to support these students in the spirit of academic freedom and upholding their human and civil rights.
And we call on the school district to honor the rights of
students at all times, including the right to remain silent, to have parental representation, and to have legal counsel.
Larry Felson & Cassie Lopez,
OEA reps, Oakland High
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by two man ( Wed May 14 03:18:21 PDT 2003
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whatd this student exactly say, while some parts of the story are true, id like to know the whole thing. kids in my class have made fun, and harshly critisized bush and SS agents dont interrogate them as you said. did they have a history, did they really threaten to kill president, was the teacher crazy??? im not saying your lying at all, ive seen bits of the story around the internet, id just like info on what he exactly said.
by soadsugarchick ( Wed May 14 06:28:24 PDT 2003
by Baptiste ( Wed May 14 10:09:28 PDT 2003
Commie Justice!
by Shm ( Wed May 14 17:27:37 PDT 2003
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Hey, I got an idea! Why don't we cut their tongues out, like Saddam did! Or jail them indefinetely, like big bad Fidel does! How about drag them through the streets, like Grandpa Yasser does! All the "rebel heroes" know what to do! Haha, such stupid shit.
by SR1 ( Wed May 14 20:25:51 PDT 2003
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what gives you the indication the either of the 2 students who made the comments about bush are communists? Just because they disagree with the tyrannical United Fakes of america, does not under any circumsatnces make them a communists.
Secret Service, FBI, CIA = SS, KGB
by Anarchist ( Wed May 14 23:20:20 PDT 2003
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A story about those degenerate subhumans hardly suprises me. The degenerate subhumans are federal government agents, the new SS, the new KGB. Pro-System propaganda paints federal agents to be heroes, when in reality, they are legalized creeps, thugs and terrorists. Federal agents are the real terrorists, having at least an influence in some of the most violent actions in post World War-II America. In Waco, TX, FBI and ATF agents torched the Branch Dividian compound and blamed it on them. Dozens died in the inferno, including several children. Two years later, there was the Oklahoma City federal building attack. The FBI had preemptive knowledege, evacuated the building and placed civilians inside it. Six years later, the FBI and CIA played a role in the worst attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor. At the very least, the FBI and CIA had advanced knowledge of the attacks, and didn't take it seriously. At the very most, FBI and CIA agents guided the aircraft into the towers and the Pentagon (unlikely). Whatever the case, their actions allowed for the deaths of 3,000, the total destruction of the World Trade Center in New York, and severe damage to the Pentagon in Washington. The result was mass paranoia, willing to limit rights for security. What is all this is. It is highly unlikely that these two made any threats against that old cocksucker George W. This is ridiculous, and it is the rule, not the exception, in the paranoia of post-9/11 America, when anyone who is a Muslim or a dissenter is feared to be a terrorist.
ok fine
by dilbag ( Thu May 15 02:42:22 PDT 2003
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"what gives you the indication the either of the 2 students who made the comments about bush are communists?"
fine, we'll work the anarchist brand of justice, just like they do in somalia and bosnia.
by two man ( Thu May 15 03:25:28 PDT 2003
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anarchist, this thread isnt meant for you to spread your anti- US gov propaganda. id be happy though to debate it on another thread or through email
by thenarrows ( Thu May 15 13:42:08 PDT 2003
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at my high school the year previous, the fbi was called and did come to my school, because another student warned the fbi about something the student said. i don't really know any praticulars, enough to make anymore than a minor contrast
kill the cunts
by noddy ( Thu May 15 17:04:35 PDT 2003
deepthroating the corporate media
by don tito ( Thu May 15 21:51:29 PDT 2003
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"fine, we'll work the anarchist brand of justice, just like they do in somalia and bosnia."
Dilbag, somalia and bosnia were not anarchist territories. the "anarchists" you're referring to were ruled by capitalistic druglords who put profit before people. any and all anarchism was stamped out by either the druglords or by american intervention.
read first-hand accounts by somalians, dont listen to what CNN is telling you. those are the same people that tried to convince you that sharks and sars would kill us all.
by two man ( Thu May 15 23:01:09 PDT 2003
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noddy, how is this CHILD ABUSE? thats a piss-poor acuusation, you didnt even make a case for yourself. you should focus on whether this is a violation of a persons freedom of speach, privacy. elaborate on the child abuse please. if this is true, i think a review board should be set up on who the hell would authroize this. either the student was serious, or misenterpreatation
Free Speech
by The Skeptic ( Fri May 16 11:02:44 PDT 2003
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Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
So.. whether this story is credible or not, the Patriot Act is no joke. Amendment I clearly states freedom of speech. I have the right to say whatever the fuck I want.
Does this mean I'm a terrorist? Not exactly. I don't feel the need to intimidate people. I don't feel the need to scare people.
The Patriot Act is absolute fear and intimidation. Now, who's the terrorist?
I suppose the fat, lazy christian America has nothing to fear. They are already spoken for.
by two man ( Fri May 16 22:13:13 PDT 2003
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skeptic, you said "I have the right to say whatever the fuck I want. Does this mean I'm a terrorist? Not exactly. I don't feel the need to intimidate people. I don't feel the need to scare people.". This brings up a good point. In todays society, you have the priveledge od freedom of speach. back to the old adadge, you cant yell fire in a movie theatre. your actions/words do have consequences, this students words may have been harsh enough to warrant an investigation of what happened.
I do agree on your point that the patriot act is a piece of legislation that was created through fear. I do not believe you can convict the US government o being a "terrorist" on this piece, look at the WHOLE HISTORY of the government, not select pieces to make your arguemnt look good. i admit, the us government does have some shallow spots, but theirs still room for improvement.
"fine, we'll work the anarchist brand of justice, just like they do in somalia and bosnia."
by and now hes swingin. and now hes the champion ( Sat May 17 17:14:40 PDT 2003
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too bad that they have chaos and warlords caused by the attacks and efforts of capitalism and state capitalism. yay. nice try kid, but you totally missed the mark. anarchy has nothing to do with warlords and gangs.
by phuckauthority ( Sat May 17 19:42:28 PDT 2003
Long history of government abuse
by Black Eye ( Sun May 18 04:49:18 PDT 2003
by DEZ ( Tue May 20 01:37:18 PDT 2003
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This is fucked up. This shit is springing up all over the place. I hear about a thought crime once a week now. Its getting worse. All the warning signs are here. The time for action is near, if not now.
ahahahahahahaha
by Yadin Kale ( Thu May 22 14:38:46 PDT 2003
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these kids deserved what happened. you can call the goddamn civil liberties union and all that crap but hell, they made threatrs against the president, the only person cooler than him was hitler man. Bush does an incredible job despite the fact you monkeys don't like him, and either way even if these kids weren't taslking about bush, what if they were talking about a kid in the school instead of bush, would you feel that thier rights were more important then lets say.....a human life? plus they are from vietnam and mein, these gooks have a grudge against our country for a rightous war in the 60's. in short they deserved to have thier rights taken away, thier slant eyed faimly should be deported and you guys should look at both sides before you fight for the rights of morons. and further more you guys blow major cock!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck Dubya
by Anarchist ( Fri May 23 03:15:20 PDT 2003
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To all you subhuman, scumbag FBI agents reading this, this is for you. Want to hear something bad about Dubya? Remember when Dubya had that speech on that aircraft carrier? Yeah, well too bad that some Russian MiGs didn't come along and strafe the flight deck when he was there. If that is a threat, then I am Elvis Presley. How could a wish like that be called a threat? Just for the sake of argument, how would a teenaged anarchist acquire, let alone control and fly, a Russian MiG fighter plane? If that is a threat, then you are full of shit. Odds are, you inhuman FBI fucks will find some way to call what I said a threat, because every government agent is a subhuman scumbag fucker.
wow wow wow now
by schizo ( Fri May 23 05:05:21 PDT 2003
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Now you comment was uncalled for. Not all federal employes are scum. Sure some are but i myself am not scum. I am a card caring member of the NRA, libertarial party and am a strong supporter of Free Speech and right to bear arms for when we are not armed, we welcome tyrannts.
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